Probably you didn't delete the file completely but to the recycle bin. privacy statement. An encoding issue, perhaps (for the text)? wifislax64-2.1-final.iso - 2 GB, obarun-JWM-2020.03.01-x86_64.iso - 1.6 GB, MiniTool_Partition_Wizard_10.2.3_Technician_WinPE.iso - 350 MB, artix-cinnamon-s6-20200210-x86_64.iso - 1.88 GB, Parrot-security-4.8_x64.iso - 4.03 GB Also tested on Lenovo IdeaPad 300 16GB OK (UEFI64). No, you don't need to implement anything new in Ventoy. So I don't really see how that could be used to solve the specific problem we are being faced with here, because, however you plan to use UEFI:NTFS when Secure Boot is enabled, your target (be it Ventoy or something else) must be Secure Boot signed. Unsigned bootloader Linux ISOs or ISOs without UEFI support does not boot with Secure Boot enabled. 1.0.80 actually prompts you every time, so that's how I found it. 2. 1.- comprobar que la imagen que tienes sea de 64 bits However, per point 12 of the link I posted above, requirements for becoming a SHIM provider are a lot more stringent than for just getting a bootloader signed by Microsoft, though I'm kind of hoping that storing EV credentials on a FIPS 140-2 security key such as a Yubico might be enough to meet them. In this situation, with current Ventoy architecture, nothing will boot (even Fedora ISO), because the validation (and loading) files signed with Shim certificate requires support from the bootloader and every chainloaded .efi file (it uses custom protocol, regular EFI functions can't be used. Nierewa Junior Member. Is there a way to force Ventoy to boot in Legacy mode? All other distros can not be booted. However, I would say that, if you are already running "arbritrary" code in UEFI mode to display a user message, while Secure Boot is enabled, then you should be able to craft your own LoadImage()/StarImage() that doesn't go through SB validation (by copying the LoadImage()/StarImage() code from the EDK2 and removing the validation part). Hopefully, one of the above solutions help you fix Ventoy if its not working, or youre experiencing booting issues. Option 2 will be the default option. Insert a USB flash drive with at least 8 GB of storage capacity into your computer. You can't. And they can boot well when secure boot is enabled, because they use bootmgr.efi directly from Windows iso. If so, please include aflag to stop this check from happening! Test these ISO files with Vmware firstly. BIOS Mode Both Partition Style GPT Disk . That's an improvement, I guess? So all Ventoy's behavior doesn't change the secure boot policy. FFS I just spent hours reinstalling arch just to get this in the end archlinux-2021.06.01-x86_64.iso with Ventoy 1.0.47 boots for me on Lenovo IdeaPad 300 UEFI64 boot. Last time I tried that usb flash was nearly full, maybe thats why I couldnt do it. fails to find system in /slax, 'Hello System' os can boot successfully with bootx64.efi's machine and show desktop. You can grab latest ISO files here : Point 4 from Microsoft's official Secure Boot signing requirements states: Code submitted for UEFI signing must not be subject to GPLv3 or any license that purports to give someone the right to demand authorization keys to be able to install modified forms of the code on a device. I'd be interested in a shim for Rufus as well, since I have the same issue with wanting UEFI:NTFS signed for Secure Boot, but using GRUB 2 code for the driver, that makes Secure Boot signing it impossible. For secure boot please refer Secure Boot . its existence because of the context of the error message. (This post was last modified: 08-06-2022, 10:49 PM by, (This post was last modified: 08-08-2022, 01:23 PM by, (This post was last modified: 08-08-2022, 05:52 PM by, https://forums.ventoy.net/showthread.phpt=minitool, https://rmprepusb.blogspot.com/2018/11/art-to.html. If you look at UEFI firmware settings, you will usually see that CSM and Secure Boot cannot be enabled at the same time, for this precise reason. Follow the guide below to quickly find a solution. But, currently, that is not the case at all, which means that, independently of the merits of Secure Boot for this or that type of media (which is a completely different debate altogether), there is a breach of the security contract that the user expects to see enforced and therefore something that needs to be addressed. Secure Boot is disabled in the BIOS on both systems, and the ISO boots just fine if I write it directly to a USB stick with Fedora Image Writer. Guid For Ventoy With Secure Boot in UEFI 1All the steps bellow only need to be done once for each computer when booting Ventoy at the first time. I've been studying doing something like that for UEFI:NTFS in case Microsoft rlinquishes their stupid "no GPLv3" policy on Secure Boot signing, and I don't see it as that difficult when there are UEFI APIs you can rely on to do the 4 steps I highlighted. Follow the urls bellow to clone the git repository. eficompress infile outfile. Maybe the image does not suport IA32 UEFI! and reboot.pro.. and to tinybit specially :) So maybe Ventoy also need a shim as fedora/ubuntu does. Reply. @adrian15, could you tell us your progress on this? Now, that one can currently break the trust chain somewhere down the line, by inserting a malicious program at the first level where the trust stops being validated, which, incidentally, as a method (since I am NOT calling Ventoy malicious here) is very similar to what Ventoy is doing for Windows boot, is irrelevant to the matter, because one can very much conceive an OS that is being secured all the way (and, once again, if Microsoft were to start doing just that, then that would most likely mark the end of being able to use Ventoy with Windows ISOs since it would no longer be able to inject an executable that isn't signed by Microsoft as part of the boot process) and that validates the signature of every single binary it runs along the way which means that the trust chain needs to start somewhere and (as far as user providable binaries are concerned) that trust chain starts with Secure Boot. On the other hand, the expectation is that most users would only get the warning very occasionally, and you definitely want to bring to their attention that they might want to be careful about the current bootloader they are trying to boot, in case they haven't paid that much attention to where they got their image @ventoy, @pbatard, any comments on my solution? Of course, there are ways to enable proper validation. I think it's OK. 1. And, for any of this to work, Ventoy would still need to independently solve the problem of allowing unsigned bootloaders pass through when Secure Boot is enabled @ventoy lo importante es conocer las diferencias entre uefi y bios y tambien entre gpt y mbr. And I will posit that if someone sees it differently, or tries to justify the current behaviour of Ventoy, of letting any untrusted bootloaders pass through when Secure Boot is enabled, they don't understand trust chains, whereas this is pretty much the base of any computer security these days. Hi, Gentoo LiveDVD doesn't work, when I try to boot it, It's showing up the GRUB CLI The text was updated successfully, but these errors were encountered: Please test this ISO file with VirtualMachine(e.g. its okay. If your PC is unable to process Ventoy as bootable media, then you may need to disable secure boot. Best Regards. /s. 1All the steps bellow only need to be done once for each computer when booting Ventoy at the first time. @ventoy I can confirm this, using the exact same iso. slitaz-next-180716.iso, Symantec.Ghost.Boot.CD.12.0.0.10658.x64.iso, regular-xfce-latest-x86_64.iso - 1.22 GB can u test ? @steve6375 Okay thanks. No! Besides, you can try a linux iso file, for example ubuntu-20.04-desktop-amd64.iso, I have the same for Memtest86-4.3.7.iso and ipxe.iso but works fine with netboot.xyz-efi.iso (v2.0.17), manjaro-gnome-20.0.3-200606-linux56.iso, Windows10_PLx64_2004.iso and HBCD_PE_x64.iso (v1.0.1) Lenovo Ideapad Z580. By clicking Sign up for GitHub, you agree to our terms of service and The user has Ubuntu, Fedora and OpenSUSE ISOs which they want to load. For instance, if you download a Windows or Linux ISO, you sure want to find out if someone altered the official bootloader, that was put there by the people who created the ISO, because it might tell you if something was maliciously inserted there. 5. extservice Many thanks! Ctrl+i to change boot mode of some ISOs to be more compatible Ctrl+w to use wimboot to boot Windows and WinPE ISOs (e.g. To add Ventoy to Easy2Boot v2, download the latest version of Ventoy Windows .ZIP file and drag-and-drop the Ventoy zip file onto the \e2b\Update agFM\Add_Ventoy.cmd file on the 2nd agFM partition. @BxOxSxS Please test these ISO files in Virtual Machine (e.g. Maybe I can get Ventoy's grub signed with MS key. Well, that's pretty much exactly what I suggested in points 1-4 from the original post, with point 4 altered from "an error should be returned to the user and bootx64.efi should not be launched" to "an error should be returned to the user who can then decide if they still want to launch bootx64.efi". If you did the above as described, exactly, then you now have a good Ventoy install of latest version, but /dev/sdX1 will be type exFAT and we want to change that to ext4, so start gparted, find that partition (make sure it is unmounted via right click in gparted), format it to ext4 and make sure to . Well occasionally send you account related emails. It's the BIOS that decides the boot mode not Ventoy. I can guarantee you that if you explain the current situation to the vast majority of Ventoy users who enrolled it in a Secure Boot environment, they will tell you that this is not what they expected at all and that what they want, once enrolled, is for Ventoy to only let through UEFI boot loaders that can be validated for Secure Boot and produce the expected Secure Boot warning for the ones that don't. VMware or VirtualBox) Hi, Hiren's Boot CD can be booted by Ventoy in Memdisk mode, you try Ventoy 1.0.08 beta2. @steve6375 Besides, I'm considering that: So if the ISO doesn't support UEFI mode itself, the boot will fail. Just create a FAT32 partition, change its label to ARCH_YYYYMM (fill in the ISO's date, now it would be ARCH_202109) and extract the Arch ISO to it. size 5580453888 bytes (5,58 GB) I will test it in a realmachine later. I have tried the latest release, but the bug still exist. I will not release 1.1.0 until a relatively perfect secure boot solution. I guess this is a classic error 45, huh? Agreed. If that is not the case already, I would also strongly urge everyone to consider the problem not as "People who want Secure Boot should perform extra steps to ensure that only signed executable will boot" but instead as "People who don't care about Secure Boot but have it enabled should either disable Secure Boot or perform extra steps if they want unsigned executables to boot". Hi, thanks for your repley boot i have same error after menu to start hdclone he's go back to the menu with a black windows saying he's loading the iso file to mem and that it freez. 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If that was the case, I would most likely sign Ventoy for my SHIM (provided it doesn't let through unsigned bootloaders when Secure Boot is enabled, which is the precise issue we are trying to solve) since, even if it's supposed to be a competitor of Rufus, I think it's a very nice solution and I'm always more than happy to direct people who would like to have a multiboot version of Rufus to use Ventoy instead. In Ventoy I had enabled Secure Boot and GPT. Level 1. Sorry for the late test. You were able to use TPM for disk encryption long before Secure Boot, and rightfully so, since the process of storing and using data encryption keys is completely different from the process of storing and using trust chain keys to validate binary executables (being able to decrypt something is very different from being able to trust something). Does it work on these machines (real or emulated) by booting it from a CDR / .iso image? I have the same error, I can boot from the same usb, the same iso file and the same Ventoy on asus vivobook but not on asus ROG. Ventoy loads Linux kernels directly, which are also signed with embedded Shim certificate. Rik. The error sits 45 cm away from the screen, haha. My guesd is it does not. It does not contain efi boot files. sol-11_3-live-x86.iso | 1.22 GB, gnewsense-live-4.0-amd64-gnome.iso | 1.10 GB, hyperbola-milky-way-v0.3.1-dual.iso | 680 MB, kibojoe-17.09final-stable-x86_64-code21217.iso | 950 MB, uruk-gnu-linux-3.0-2020-6-alpha-1.iso | 1.35 GB, Redcore.Linux.Hardened.2004.KDE.amd64.iso | 3.5 GB, Drauger_OS-7.5.1-beta2-AMD64.iso | 1.8 GB, MagpieOS-Gnome-2.4-Eva-2018.10.01-x86_64.iso | 2.3 GB, kaisenlinuxrolling1.0-amd64.iso | 2.80 GB, chakra-2019.09.26-a022cb57-x86_64.iso | 2.7 GB, Regata_OS_19.1_en-US.x86_64-19.1.50.iso | 2.4 GB. You can have BIOS with TPM and disk encryption and, provided your hardware manufacturer implements anti tampering protection to ensure that the TPM is not sharing data it shouldn't share with parts of the system that should not be trusted, it should be no less secure than TPM-based encryption on a Secure Boot enabled system. With ventoy, you don't need to format the disk over and over, you just need to copy the ISO/WIM/IMG/VHD (x)/EFI. Its also a bit faster than openbsd, at least from my experience. This means current is MIPS64EL UEFI mode. Then your life is simplified to Persistence management while each of the 2 (Ventoy or SG2D) provide the ability to boot Windows if it is installed on any local . You can't just convert things to an ISO and expect them to be bootable! JonnyTech's response seems the likely circumstance - however: I've Ventoy up to 1.0.12 used the /dev/mapper/ventoy approach to boot. Would MS sign boot code which can change memory/inject user files, write sectors, etc.? to your account. Maybe the image does not support X64 UEFI" If you really want to mount it, you can use the experimental option VTOY_LINUX_REMOUNT in Global Control Plugin. It woks only with fallback graphic mode. bionicpup64-8.0-uefi.iso Legacy+UEFI tested with VM, ZeroShell-3.9.3-X86.iso Legacy tested with VM, slax-64bit-9.11.0.iso Legacy tested with VM. There are many kinds of WinPE. Exactly. Remain what in the install program Ventoy2Disk.exe . Posts: 15 Threads: 4 Joined: Apr 2020 Reputation: 0 0 The best workaround is to install some Linux variant (I use Fedora but Ubuntu and SUSE are supported) and install VirtualBox. Hi, HDClone can be booted by Ventoy in Memdisk mode for legacy BIOS, you try Ventoy 1.0.08 beta2. Try updating it and see if that fixes the issue. Users can update Ventoy by installing the latest version or using VentoyU, a Ventoy updater utility. Ventoy does not always work under VBox with some payloads. Again, detecting malicious bootloaders, from any media, is not a bonus. Open File Explorer and head to the directory where you keep your boot images. By clicking Sign up for GitHub, you agree to our terms of service and Would disabling Secure Boot in Ventoy help? @pbatard Correct me if I'm wrong, but even with physical access, the main point of Secure Boot is to allow TPM to validate the running system before releasing stored keys, isn't it? While Ventoy is designed to boot in with secure boot enabled, if your computer does not support the secure boot feature, then an error will result. Even though I copied the Windows 10 ISO to flash drive, which presumably has a UEFI boot image on it, neither of my Vostros would recognize it. The current release of Slax (slax-64bit-11.2.1.iso) fails to boot using UEFI64 using ventoy with the error message:

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