Would love to hear from anyone who has sampled these Sealers and what they thought. I am hoping this Sherwin Williams product won't yellow over time. So they use 3 gal of product and it appears the TrafficHD is $100/gal more +/- than the cheaper stuff. I have a small house and should have maximized flow but didn't realize just how much planning that would take at once. Two coats of Bona Traffic HD Commercial Matte This is a higher cost process, since it is a top of the line water based poly that prevents yellowing over time. Good luck on your project!! Classic seal gave a deeper color but I found it to be too yellow. They either look to white/milkey or they are orangish yellow. Also I highly suggest getting big samples done with all the coatings. and 3 coats of Satin (which satin did you choose since there are 5 satins from Bona). @Ashley Your floors look beautiful. A friend of mine had her red oak floors sanded and bleached to get the pink out and then sealed them. It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. She lucked out and her floors look pretty good. But they did just complete a project with Bona NordicSeal. Give a price you can make a living off of and let someone else win the low ball estimates. Buyer beware, you should be nervous. WebWhite oak refinish- Bona NaturalSeal. Training costs money. ! Which means something is sitting on, grinding down, pressing into or just plain 'sitting on' your floors every second of every day. Traditionally you will ask for QUOTES and then VIEW their work (photos or in person if they have clients who offer their home as a 'show piece' = very rare) and THEN you hire the person who as the best "fit" for your needs. Its no different than my quartz countertop and backsplash that also should not have acidic or harsh chemicals, and Im sure most professional contractors wouldnt recommended against quartz behind a stove. It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. How are things holding up a ~year later? I've tested their smoke reactive and their Baro reactive Both can be adjusted with water or their "clear" so that you can get varying tones. @mtpo did you use a satin or matte finish? D Debra Travis Red Oak Hardwood Floors Installing Hardwood Floors Natural Wood Flooring Decoration We refinishing the floor and apply natural seal from bona and top coat bona mega one satin D That leave NaturalSeal, ClassicSeal and IntenSeal. Thank you for asking. We used 1 coat Bona Nordic and 2 coats Traffic HD in Satin. That 'fit' can include their ability to communicate. I asked for, but he never did, an all country white one. I hope I get into the house before any subcontractors mess them up again! Thanks for sharing these pictures - they look great! There is no haze and the floors look very pretty, natural in color with a light sheen. Yeah, thats what I am realizing. Maybe instead of wanting it natural, I really wanted it lighter rather than a medium to darker stain. I DEFINITELY reccomend reading reviews for fabricators before choosing who you'll use . will slightly darken the floors and sort of intensify the variation (the sample boards almost looked wet to me). Over the years, theres been a lot of things Ive cut costs on, but I feel it doesnt pay to skimp on a major feature of my new house that should last for a very long time. skip to main content Sale ON SALE - UP TO 75% OFF Bathroom Vanities Chandeliers Bar Stools Pendant Lights Rugs Living Room Chairs Dining Room Furniture Wall Lighting Coffee Tables Side & End Tables Home Office Furniture Sofas Bedroom Furniture Lamps Mirrors FURNITURE I have lived in my new house for 15 months and I love the look of my floors - they are easy to decorate with and give the home a warm but "cool" look at the same time. Ill post more photos- the site only lets me post one at a time. Can you also please send a picture of the floors with the seal and traffic HD? It would have been better to ASK if they put on all 3 coats in one day. Absolutely love the matte finish. Sure, white kitchens are beautiful when theyre sparkling clean. @mtpo did you ever post final pictures of your floor? They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. By the way, did you use any fillers to fill the knots and gaps between the planks? The 'raw' look is a special look. Sample made on raw white oak during the decision process: two coats of Bona NordicSeal, top-coated with Bona Traffic Naturale. It looks like the grain is *very* deep on the board to the left. :). Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? My sister has Neolith and loves it (clean up a breeze but she does have nicks near her sink after 1 year). Our cabinet maker will be finishing them, not us. (Mirror and lighting still not in). The white background wasnt a true white but it wasnt bad and the marbling was pretty. So I suppose its even better than 3 coats in 3 days as I originally thought given your advice. They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. I wish I had the link, but there are others that used a combination of stains with weathered oak as the base and it is beautiful as well. I havent figured out if Im going to use any window coverings yet. You only need an inch. Just about the time I had to FINALLY make a decision (about a year later than when I started due to the architects goof ups and COVID shut downs), the Corian fabricator sent me a couple 4x4 samples of Glacier White. Thanks for leaving this up. The trick is to A) find the professional trained in water based finishes and B) keep the sheen to satin or matte. They bring in wood from various locations. Which is why I posted asking for people's experiences today, but I never received any replies. I had some 2 x 2 Corian samples that kept calling my name. The samples are done AFTER you hire the professional but BEFORE you put down the stain! Trying to make this choice right now(within the next two hours- yikes! It may come in other thicknesses too. Dark Hardwood Floors vs. Light Hardwood Floors? Natural came in too natural or raw (though thats what I thought I wanted). And rubio makes a treatment for acid stains. I read that Natural has a bit of white in it too to avoid the yellow, but unsure if that is fact. WebBona AB is a family-owned, sustainably-driven company that supplies products for installing, renovating, maintaining and restoring premium floors. I adore the light color, but every little water spot shows, or a splash of spilled coffee. I could not get dog drool, LOLwe also scratched it and our current floors (factory oil urethane) with tips of a scissor to compare. It will not etch like Marble, but has a marble like appearance. The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. I am on info overload. I did call Bona and they assured me that none of the 3 sealers would add "yellow" or "amber" to my floors - but thought I'd also ask here. There are MANY people who do NOT know they are 'clean-shiny' people until they purchase matte floors. Someone else on here suggested Durasupreme. Its not a guarantee that the floors wont get damaged, but perhaps the extra coat will buy me a little more time to clean up a wet spot. We are deciding between Classic and Intense seal on our white oak floors as well! It is my understanding that these Bona products are tricky to apply. so you did one coat of natural and two coats of HD? WebSome 5 white oak with Bona Natural Seal and Hd traffic extra matte. Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. But that's just a quick guess. I was asked two separate questions. Unfortunately, we have put our kitchen reno on hold. Je peux rejeter les cookies non essentiels en cliquant sur Grer mes prfrences . @Jessica Lirag what did you end up with? If so, they are normal surface marking, nothing to worry about. (We dont know for sure what our on site finish will be either but felt we had a little more control this way.). If so, they are normal surface marking, nothing to worry about. Okay we have decided to go with Bona Traffic HD in extra matte! (I didnt think about this before adding the bookcases.) Fortunately, the installer is sending them back to the lumberyard to be replaced. I just got samples and have found mixing the white with mist gives almost an exact color for unfinished white oak. Combining Bona NaturalSeal with a matte-sheen finish such as Bona Traffic Naturale preserves that look and gives your floor the WebHealthsmart: 640-8174-1900HS, Healthsmart - 640-8174-1900HS - HealthSmart Steel Shoe Horn 24", White, HealthSmart Steel Shoe Horn 24" L, White, Epoxy-coated Steel The stain alone does not protect the floors, just adds color. If you want a bit of "yellow depth" to the floor, then work with an oil modified. WebWhite Oak Kitchen Cabinets - Bona NaturalSeal? I like it a lot no visible seam at the back of the countertop). My fear was that a lower quality finish would yellow or amber the wood. Their availability (not alwaysbut sometimes) or their LACK of availability (the best people are ALWAYS BOOKED months in advance). If you are in the area, you may want to visit Cochrans showroom. Was a bit of a risky choice, went with a pretty unusual/bold extra wide 5" wide pattern and I think it turned out well. I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. I disagree that it was not an attack on me as G & Ss follow up comment said, oh yeah, hidden message. In your photos, it actually looks like your parquet is made solid squares, nicer to see larger woodgrain patterns instead of the 4 or 5 slat in a checkerboard pattern(each "tile" would have 12 or 14 etc total slats in one 1 sf "tile". See the photo below if you open the photo you will see the raw wood. Here are pictures of Bona Natural and Traffic HD on white oak for anyone wondering, Gorgeous! We wanted to end up with a floor that looked as close to our raw wood as possible but had lots of protection. Heres a close up. The chemical composition of natural stones will affect their performance in your home so it's important you have this information. @mpto Thanks so much, can't wait to see your final product!! Came out a little lighter, but it all depends on your preference. It still should not come off. He just did coat #2, not sure how much he used. (Ive read LOTS of old posts!). Is this permissible to use on cabinets. Installing an 8" plank with full spread glue is EXPENSIVE (the labour alone is intense). can you share any pix? They don't like doing it - because they go through SOOO many screening discs (I've heard of more than 12 discs being used in one home). I originally wanted a chocolate color but realized I like more contrast between floor and furnishings than a mid tone would give me. In real life, they look lighter and more uniform in color than shows up on my iPhone. Photos would be helpful. You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. Bona Traffic (original) is two steps up from Mega. Finished with three matte protective coats. I'm so confusedthere is no flooring in the white oak, just the LVP. WebBona - WM710013496 - 16.5 in. While I am not happy that we are all having this issue - I am somewhat relived to see that I am actulally not losing my mind that this look should be achievable in some fashion . @widdy23 Seems like everything is taking longer than expected. @Ashley I just want to lay down on my floors and HUG them!! I would say he under bid the job and was pushing himself to finish (he rushed the stainwhich is why it is inconsistent) so that he could move on and make money on another job. Can you apply the Bona NaturalSeal and then apply a couple coats of something like the Renner? WebBona DriFast Stain mix of White and Grey with two coats of Bona NaturalSeal and finished off with Mega ONE on this beautiful floor by Beyond The Grain Custom Design with Territory Manager, Jeff Offredo, on site. Thank you! In real life, they dont have as much brown as in the photo. I have a dog that has an occasional accident. Or is Minwax and Duraseal the same thing? Will there be less haze if we use a satin finish? I personally feel a reputable stone supplier and fabricator will educate you in mineral composition, stone formation, and inform you how and where the stones are quarried. The coating should not come up. @HU-6868130 your herringbone looks amazing! Im glad we didnt go darker. My suggestion is to figure out what type of 'cleaning' person you are. They make their final grit-pass and then they will place the colour samples down with a coat of finish. I read on the Bona website (and others) that TrafficHD coverage was 350-400sf/gal. These are the guys who put down 3 coats in one day and then p!ss off. I looked at the bona product and it states it contains a small amount of white pigment? Would love to see finished product! If a few hundred dollars (or even more), meant the difference between loving my finished product and hating it, I felt having samples was well worth the cost. I am actually in the process of having a quart sample of the Milesi Natural Effect 2k finish sent my way. I will ask him about Poloplaz Pearl and Pallman products as well.Would you suggest a satin or matte finish? I did not pick our stain only from photos, we went to other houses and had samples done. It will make the white oak whiter. I thought I was going with Pallman's white, because it was gorgeous on the 15"X8" sample but on the larger sample with a new bundle of wood it pulled way too pink, even on white oak. WebBona DriFast Stain is a premium quick-drying stain for interior hardwood floors. If, Bona Mega is your budget. I hope these help someone! And it is taking me some time to get used to a matte floor. I guess it could help but honestly unless someone has your exact home with your ecxat light it is still just a guess . Your comment was devised to make me feel small and make worry about my floors when they are already finished. They held up to move in with no major scratches. Did 4 coats of nordic and 3 traffic hd on 1 dollar a sq foot utility 4 inch white oak but some was red oak as well but still my dog likes it. (Thank you @Joseph Corlett for giving me the confidence to use Corian and to Heartwood Solid Surfaces for doing the work.) 1 coat in the morning and 1 coat in the afternoon. Get the third coat of sealer. You need to start watered down, for they are strongjust take good notes of your ratios, LOL. Please dont post again while I figure out how to delete this post. Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. But that's all it does. For the finish, use a water-based product, not an oil-based product which can yellow from sun exposure over time. There is a haze to the floors as someone posted its most likely due to the matte finish. Thank you. It has been a nightmare trying to find this look in my area. After seeing this post and refinishing parents floor, I want your oak in my house you did fantastic job. If, you want a raw pale look. A quick scan of my question and then a quick scan of your answer simply lead G & S to believe all 3 coats were put down same day.which happens more than you really want to know. I could only post one photo at a time. If you search my other discussions on this site, youll see how I flip-flopped so many times Corian, stainless, Neolith, D e k t o n, Quartz, wood (for the island top) and finally back to Corian. New This Week: 3 Knockout Kitchens With Natural Wood Cabinets, Trending Now: 11 Popular Kitchens That Rock Not-White Cabinets, New This Week: 3 Welcoming White-Cabinet Kitchens, New This Week: 6 Stylish Not-White Kitchen Cabinet Colors, 4 Kitchens With White Cabinets and a Wood Island. @Ryan Danielson what did you end up going with? BTW after the fabricator installed the countertops (and carefully covered them to protect them), other contractors uncovered them and used them as a work bench and scratched them up - a lot! Sigh. Finally, I coated half of my sample with their Fortico Satin and I could not see the poly at all. @ Moran.now I see where this has come up. And I do find myself wishing I had done 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD - just to give them more protection. I will mention some Quartzites have a higher level of porosity and should be sealed regularly. Have experienced installers figured out how to use the Nordic in open floor plan homes? I know I've gone on for a while. NO true Quartzite will etch. I got a quartz remnant for the tub area (a kinda white) in my hideaway bathroom and Ocean Jasper Quartz for the master ADA bathroom. Dry finish. A hint of tan. Don't change chemical companies in the middle of a refinish. Skip the 'money saving'. thanks, All! It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. How much should I expect the Traffic HD to change the color? Consider greige, blush, distressed blue or one of these other instant-classic cabinet colors, Try this classic kitchen combination for a design thats warm and inviting, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, Bleached White Oak Cabinets Star in This Two-Tone Kitchen, Seeing Green: Some Kitchens Ditch White for Mother Natures Neutral, Hold Everything Your White Kitchen Cabinets Just Got Better, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists. It was one coat of seal. Oak floors are beautiful and timeless. If you do NOT want ORANGEthen stay away from "oil" based finishes or "oil modified". Post back here with a link if you get more answers than I did or if you go with white! I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. Obviously flooring isnt my specialty, but it is yours. More great information. Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. If you like to see a shiny floor RIGHT AFTER you clean the floor (because it makes you feel like you've accomplished something) then you are what I refer to as a 'clean-shiny' person. If those were red oak, they did a very good job toning down the red. Nordic seal is not a easy product to put down, unless you have experience. So it comes in at 1025 or 1.25 X 820 sf (amount of flooring ordered with sufficient for waste/scrap. I think we found a good match. If you look at my photos above, the wood sample with one coat of Bona Natural sealer and one coat of Matte Traffic HD looked nice too but looked horrible with one coat of Natural and 3 coats of satin Traffic HD. Many people would give their eyeteeth for floors of that quality. WebWhen refinishing oak floors, achieving a natural/untreated look can be challenging, particularly when color matching red and white oak in one area of the home. Sorry but that isn't the way things are done in the building industry. @skru33 Thanks! These people end up crying themselves to sleep because they HATE their floors (and the massive price tag they just paid for). I have my fingers crossed that I wont see white stripes when all the protective paper is pulled up. The good news is the installer will have learned his lesson: do NOT under bid a project just to win it. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. @Renee Czeryba, my advice: when you test put sealer and finish on top to see how it is really going to look.

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