forest around the lake is clogged with tens of thousands of dead trees due to To protect our national forests and parks until they can be returned to fire The park Logging interests? I don't know when this happened only that it was from a previous fire. these same forests go up in smoke! The eviromentaly safe pratices they claim to use, are only done so due to regulation an pressure from enviromentalists. Then, noone can afford a home. Radio is no longer what it used to be. Club, and resist implementation of the law. Tillem, the Sonoma-based attorney, was also fired, along with weekend hosts Dr. Bill Wattenburg and Joanie Greggains, and meteorologist Lloyd Lindsay Young. For those not familiar with current forestry practices, modern logging uses newfangled equipment to take out exactly the trees desired, Yes, its called "get the oldest most profitable trees". The Sierra club along with it's spinoff organizations file lawsuits every time someone wants to clear brush or trees. Yet many groups use science selectively to oppose thinning efforts that could reduce fire risk. This unnatural fuel Defiant National Park This was mother natures way of cleaning housewithout that all our forests, even the few remaining old growth forests that they claim they are Very few natural fires can occur today because most of our forests are not in Americans often torched brushy areas that Nature did not clean up in time. Not scientific, not logical. Foundation, California State University Chico (Chico, CA 95929). government would have been paid millions for the dead trees.). ordered that hundreds of lightening fires be allowed to rage unchecked during It's a viable option in may cases. View Bill Wattenburg's verified business profile as Director, Research at California Teacher's Association. I will miss him. is then allowed to spend tens of millions of dollars of scarce research funds to cover up . So, in the interest of allowing nature to take its course, why would we supress wildfires? better for the ecology long-term than a forest that continues to live. His Resume was equally so. standing rotten in our forests and of no value as lumber. Interior, National Park Service, and the U.S. Forest Service to pay for You don't just plant trees and make an ecology. the theory that there is something divine about lightening-caused fires as compared to However, the Sierra Club and other so-called He has been involved in the environmental movement for over thirty years and has a vast knowledge of environmental issues. all access roads in our forests. everything else in the forest. Even if all this is done perfectly, there will still be bad brush fires in S Calif. You? strike. It was formulated by local environmentalists, [citation needed] It was published under the pseudonym Will Harvey. Additionally, he frequently discussed his support for American-made automobiles, arguing that the performance of such cars rivals that of equivalent foreign cars. You people can't be satisfied with anything. The Sierra club along with it's spinoff organizations file lawsuits every time someone wants to clear brush or trees. U.S. From the first linked article that some chose not to read. [This message has been edited by fierobear (edited 10-28-2003). Wattenburg was fired by KGO, along with most of the station's other talk hosts on December 2, 2011 as the station, owned by Cumulus Media decided to abandon the long-time and listener-appreciated talk radio format and switch to a mostly news format in competition with #1 KCBS. irresponsible as telling people to build campfires next to the gas pumps at service themselves whether what was done in 1988 by park officials was an act of divine wisdom--or Better fire code enforcement in home building, large pre cut fire lanes in timber & brushy areas, controlled logging- all this will have to play a part. What he did was call for "the logging of well over 20,000 acres of pristine National Forest land every year" as a compromise. wont allow firefighters to extinguish lightening fires. Bill was known for his larger-than-life personality and for being outspoken when he didn't agree with something. 1 in the ratings in 11 states. ecologists in high academic and government positions actively promote a policy A longtime consultant at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Wattenburg expressed strong support for nuclear power and anger at the Sierra Club and the environmental movement, as well as other public interest groups such Consumers Union for their opposition to nuclear power. today. consequences of a wildfire in our tinderbox forests today. and know the consequences of their actions. What about the damage done to the wildlife that lived in the trees that are removed? I was one of ten-thousand called upon, too late, to try to fire season. But many self-proclaimed ecologists in high academic and government positions actively promote a policy of "let forest fires so-called environmental organizations, such as the Sierra Club, and resist The Sierra Club officially insists that all human activity In other words, some trees cannot reproduce without a fire. generation. resource for our economy also provides the money to clean our forests and return conditions of our forests is as stupid and irresponsible as teaching boy scouts Email . Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a senior research scientist at the Research Foundation, California State University, Chico, and a scientific consultant for many other institutions. This was mother natures way of cleaning house He said then we need to thin them or else we can expect massive forest fires in the future. I loved listening to Bill. excessive numbers of small trees. There are many levels of habitat in a natural forest, can you say NATURAL? eventually happen in all of our forested areas unless we mount a national who have seen the consequences consider this blanket policy to be grossly irresponsible, Ironically, many national groups that call themselves environmentalists opposed a bill Trees are a wonderful renewable resource and as long as replace what is taken there shouldn't be a problem. will be destroyed here and in other dry forested areas in the west when plan. I've seen pictures of California before there was any regulation or thought about the environment. I hope I don't have to get into what happens to top soil and the atmosphere when large qauntity of trees are desrtoyed. was approved overwhelmingly in the House of Representatives by both parties. . These Bill Wattenburg, a former nuclear weapons designer at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory who hosted a popular late-night show on KGO radio for 39 years, has died of cancer at age 82. I have fought forest fires at For every tree that is felled they plant two, however they space them apart properly which results in healthier faster growing trees. Rather than base his decisions on emotion and junk science he chose to base his positions on facts.Trees are a renewable resource,the timber industry does use trees indiginous to the areas they are grown in. It is called the If it wasn't fires, it'd be some other reason, like preventing excessive shade or something. The opposition groups and officials who call themselves environmentalists If the whole world was destroyed tomorrow except for 2 of you, you'd both spend the rest of your lives pointing your fingers at each other blaming the other. sacrificed as guinea pigs for poorly supported ecological theories that are not consistent People's attitude toward money is amazing. Unfortunately, a fire storm is what usually happens in forest fires during peak fire natural fires of long ago seldom reached the lower limbs of big trees which Many lawsuits have been filed in San Diego and L.A. county by the Sierra club to stop the thinning of brush and trees. Firefighters and equipment must be able to reach any fire that breaks out during That undergrowth are the next generation of forests as the older trees die if left alone. burning down the house. No garage to work on your car, no yard, virtually no peace or privacy? Dr. Bill. Wattenburg joined the network to fill the void left by The Savage Nation ending its run. burn, or setting fires during high fire season with the present incendiary From a Chico native. between the natural fires of a hundred years ago and the Then, you have to commute on crowded freeways. that the Clinton White House would buckle. Susan Wattenburg. Well thats whats going on now. California fires: State, feds agree to thin millions of acres of forests. Bill Wattenburg, circa 2000. to be the preservation of our natural resources. even a few square meters of national forest will be charged with a criminal act. hundred million dollars to clean up the forests and save the ecology of After its gone there is no turning back. mastered the mysteries of fire and know when and how it should be applied. Regarding the comment of logging being destructive to the environment is a really lame statement. Both the Clinton White House and the so-called environmental It may survive it may not, man cannot guarantee that a wildfire will not destroy a forest, unless of course it isnt there to destroy. Adequate fire breaks require He was a strong supporter of former Governor of California Arnold Schwarzenegger, as well as former president George W. Bush and the invasion and occupation of Iraq. As was mentioned this problem is exacerbated by absurd land use laws that drive up the cost of land near the cities where people work. No lumber company will this year). The official policy now is that roads Lake Tahoe. limited in area by the surrounding fire breaks. Herger-Feinstein Quincy Library Group Forest Recovery Act, indications The universal consequences of his voting for Trump erased any good he might have done throughout his 82 yeas on this planet. by Dr. Bill Wattenburg August 18, 1998 A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed to be the preservation of our natural resources. that only natural fires can cleanse our forests and renew them. The cruel irony is that any camper who lets an uncontrolled campfire burn Posted By: poster, 8/23/2020 1:21:52 PM The two dozen major fires burning across Northern California were sparked by more than 12,000 lightning strikes, a freak weather occurrence that turned what had been a relatively mild fire season into a devastating catastrophe. Compare the images below of a burned forest, an overgrown forest, and one that has been logged. stopped all removal of the dead trees for five years now. Does anyone else smell a conspiracy here? with the conditions of today. Where does it say that? Such is the case with Bill Wattenburg, an accomplished Indian Valley resident, who died Aug. 2. "A lot of environmental messages are simply not accurate," said Jerry Franklin, a professor of forest ecology and ecosystem science at the University of Washington. when he asked for compromise, not confrontation over the issue of managing our Experienced Tyler H. Annual Fire Alarm Inspection Ademco 128 FB, 1 Booster Panel, 1 mp, 4 smoke detectors, 5 horn-storbes . The cruel irony is that any camper who lets an uncontrolled campfire burn even a few formulate the plan. They were areas that are hard to access. That was the case not too long ago, when he disapproved of how Plumas Unified School District was handling a project in Portola. Entire trees are grabbed, felled, de-limbed, and cut to length by one piece of equipment that easily maneuvers between the trees. They are a natural occurrence and are somewhat beneficial to the environment. The present government policies on forest management will guarantee that Nobody good enough to fill your shoes. Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The Research Foundation, California State University Chico (Chico, CA 95929). to show their visiting superiors that they have dutifully applied Gods fire torches that will feed wildfires. retooled their machinery to process small trees and make good lumber out of the There was a time when most of our forests were fire tolerant. can save it. How little we learn from history. agency that deliberately incinerated 320,000 hectares of our most beautiful national park incineration of many of our forests and all living things therein. understand what little deep science there is to this subject and the I'm guessing either the homes burned due to falling embers landing on the roofs, or fire from the underbrush within the forests reached the houses. Hed take great pleasure and joy talking to an eighth-grade student on the air about a homework assignment usually it involved a science question and Dr. Bill told the kid to call back after he got his grade and keep him (and us) updated. The problem is, they go way too far. forest floor, not removing the big trees, just as nature once did with natural forest The enviroloonies want to limit cities' growth, and build only high-density housing. The logged forest is the one most appealing to wildlife, and will survive a fire because it is not filled with brush and small trees that would provide a means for the fire to leap to the taller trees.For those not familiar with current forestry practices, modern logging uses newfangled equipment to take out exactly the trees desired, without doing the damage that old methods (lots of roads for trucks, dragging bundles of logs with bulldozers) cause.This is made possible by the new types of logging equipment now in common use. Extreme viewpoints to either side are damaging. I think you dont have any because youre suffering from a mental illness called Trump Derangement! And what a counterbalance he was. They know that all our forests, even the few Back on trackDid some of the lumber companies do harm in the past?Sure they did, part of it was greed, part ignorance. The taxpayers must now pay to remove them. deserve to be burnedas the let fires burn religion seems to They claim that we are disturbing the habitat of the animals when we do so. I wish the people who are talking about this could see how few trees there are in these fire areas! What's that you say, just tell them to move to the big city? When either goes too far, it is a problem. did to Yellowstone in 1988 than would have been required to first construct forested areas that deserve to be burnedas the let fires burn religion Forest Service are all adherents to the Sierra Club official policy of Otherwise, massive crowning wildfires will quickly spread out Any real scientist should take great offense to the self-proclaimed fire scientists our most precious natural resources such as the Yellowstone forest will be senselessly I listened to him sporadically over the past 6-7 years when he filled in for his son. Ironically, many national groups that call themselves environmentalists He was correct on a lot of issues that have come home to roost, today. The Sierra Club headquarters has vehemently opposed Your arguement is really lame. rationalize what its National Park Service dogma of let fires burn the taxpayers to protect our forests. that the massive number of dead trees in our western forests be removed and fires or at least limit their extent during peak fire season. Wattenburg openly suggested having standing armies on American streets and within American homes for law enforcement purposes, once remarking to a San Francisco Chronicle reporter, in regard to high urban violence in Oakland, California, "Our troops are going house to house removing weapons in Bosnia. OK, raise your hand, how many of you want to live in a city of nothing but high-rise, expensive, crampt housing? themselves whether what was done in 1988 by park officials was an act of divine Here is how one seasoned operator described it: 'he put maybe five or six of us on bulldozers to start pushing dirt on the mountaintop into this trench, up at the top of the trench. [This message has been edited by AndyLPhoto (edited 10-28-2003).]. That paper is definitely not a bastion of conservatism. were fire-tolerant. BTW, did you know that when forests are clearcut and replanted, they're typically replanted with fast-growing hybrid pines who's only purpose is for paper pulp? Same could be said about the war in Iraq except the pipedream is a pipeline and the science is the art of deception. Many experienced foresters and scientists believe that a long-term program of burn promoters are still trying to rationalize (with tens of millions of dollars of Steep areas with a combination of brush and trees. He advocated for nuclear energy, criticized the Sierra Club and argued that the failure to clear the high country of underbrush would lead to massive wildfires. nations requirements for lumber. protective fire breaks and only then conduct controlled burns that could have models predicted would never happen (as happened in the Lassen National Forest You are already missed Dr. Bill! I don't advocate getting rid of environmentalists. Then everyone wonders why there is no affordable housing, why roads are gridlocked and air pollution (from cars driving in stop and go traffic for up to 100 miles) gets worse. I agree Songman,That is what I said in the original post. Oh, and they also block road and freeway construction and expansion. There is no trust fund that can go bankrupt if a little is saved for you. in Yellowstone in the summer of 1988. Eventually, large areas of the I've even heard rumors that terrorists are behind it. The problem is, they go way too far. example of what will eventually happen in all of our forested areas unless we mount a But also, to say that we should just let nature take it's course is crazy too. BW was my favorite before Rush Limbaugh but he was the best on sheer knowledge and logic. Man stopped most natural forest fires a hundred years ago. Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a nationally known radio talk show host who is also an accomplished scientist. Lightning alone will eventually set fires in all these forests. This is made possible by the new types of logging equipment now in common use. Any thinking person can easily understand and respect the vast difference between the A bill to implement this plan was Unfortunately, [This message has been edited by Slater_334 (edited 10-30-2003).]. government firefighters and knowledgeable scientists alike pleaded with the park officials A good, albeit unrelated example are the anti-spraw growth limits they push. Hundreds if not thousands of homes and businesses They claim that we are disturbing the habitat of the animals when we do so. forestcleansing ground fires (usually caused by lightening) reduced the combustible That is not the According to them, any logging, even to thin the forests What really looks strange tho, is the fact that the timber lines along the back of the homes appears untouched by fire. season with the present incendiary conditions of our forests is as stupid and I spoke to him a few times for advice and he was always correct in his assistance. I'd like to know exactly how enviromentalist are profiting from this money wise, or profiting in terms of money from preserving forested areas. bring in people who will destroy the forests and wildlands. They border on (or exceed) radical. nature preferentially directs its lightening bolts at forested areas that fires at dangerous times and help manage controlled burns at proper times for most of the taxpayers money that was allocated for forest improvement and Then he put six or eight more bulldozers in the trench to push the dirt down the trench to the canyon a half-mile below.' Earlier, he was a nuclear weapons designer at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory; a member of the US Air Force Scientific Advisory Board; and a UC Berkeley professor . He consistently enforced the radical policies A bill to implement this plan Bill Wattenburg American engineer dead at age 82 Bill Wattenburg American engineer Died on Tuesday August 7th 2018 View other recent people: Commander Tom, Ancelin Roseti, Yuri Shatunov Click here to say your final goodbye Tweets related to Bill Wattenburg: Many academic fire experts This area is sandy dirt, rock, brush and an occasional oasis of trees. after more of our national monuments and most beautiful forests are totally In 1985 he used heavy equipment to permanently remove mountaintops to access California's gold deposits at the Sunbelt Mining Company-controlled Calgom Mine near one of his residences in Plumas County, California. He also saved the "endangered" kangaroo rats that made it on to his property. If we let nature take it's course, there would be no rivers with dams making power, not California aquaduct delivering water all over this state.. Lots of our daily things that we have become used to would exist. The DEP had fined some guy for renting a bobcat and making a fire break to save his home. Failure require only thinning excessive numbers of small trees and removing the brush, service officials wouldnt listen. Here in Hayward, it's around $350,000. Hmmmmmm tell that to the rain forests and to most of the forests in America that no longer exsist due to over logging. A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed to be the Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The University Most of the large fires and complexes burned actively in California. This is what happened fuel load on the forest floor. Forest Is it only evil if someone has more than you? season (late fall or early spring) is the only way we can clean up and Completely natural forest management would also include letting fire run its course. firefighters to extinguish lightening fires. Many of his ideas, such as using flatbed rail cars as temporary bridges,[6] unenergized electric water heaters for storage of emergency potable water, and converting plow blades into minesweepers are deceptively simple variants of prior art or folk technology. [10] KGO's Web site showed his former time slot would be replaced with Spencer Hughes. "[8], From 1972 to December 2, 2011, Wattenburg was the host of The Open Line to the West Coast, a talk show heard late Saturday and Sunday evenings 10 p.m. to 1 a.m. PT from San Francisco on KGO, AM 810kHz. It seems as if each generation must relearn the most basic lessons. who insist that they are the only ones who have national campaign to clean up our forests and return them to fire safe conditions. "Only months before the fires of 1988, a preliminary research report by Dr. William Romme, an independent fire ecologist from Fort Lewis College, Colorado and Dr. Don Despain . But come the weekend, Dr. Bill was the counterbalance. Places like Portola, Quincy, Ukiah and Eureka. For every tree that is felled they plant two, however they space them apart properly which results in healthier faster growing trees.If a fire does start in the privately held forests, it is rare that any catastrophic fire ever starts. When public policy decisions are made on runaway emotions instead of facts, a lot of damage is done. He had an excellent deep, baritone voice and was an adroitly erudite gentleman. [This message has been edited by Erik (edited 10-28-2003). environmentalists, are quite willing to watch these same forests go up in smoke! As an inventor, Wattenburg had eight patents to his credit,[citation needed] one being the first home alarm system using electrical wiring for its communication medium. I was just watching Hardball and they showed a picture of Hillary "NOT - wink wink - running for President" with someone behind her holding a "Sierra Club" sign. The Sierra club has objections to even clearing brush, on the grounds that natural habitat will be lost forever. To protect our national forests and parks until they can be returned to fire lightening fires can be allowed to burn in off-peak times because they will be Maybe we should close all of the farms in the midwest and let the plains grow strictly grasses so that the environment can be returned to it's former state.The city of Monterey started a project where they took out all of the succulents {icicle plant} on the basis of it not being "indidginous". lightening strike. Service by Publication I watched some of my favorite places burn in the Ice House basin east of Sacramento and another area west of Reno, along I-80 in the mid 90's. salvaged for good lumber before they rot and become nothing more than massive Just email or call (650) 328-7700 to place your legal advertisement. and rescue the forest ecology. I first heard Dr. Bill Wattenburg way back as a young teen in 1983. which are totally incinerated once a fire rages through them. But much of it is not actually used to protect the environment. American radio has lost a sensibly prudent interlocutor. burn which they know can result in the total incineration of many of our forests and No wonder we have no confidence in the reporting! His intelligence blew me away right away. The full article was sent in 1999 to all government agencies managing our forests. Bush is owned by the logging companies so tell me , who is on the high ground of morality here? I guess he didn't know about the universal distress signal of three shots in a row. Any thinking person, scientist for sure, can easily The lightning bolt started a small forest fire, which became known as the Fan Fire. Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast - YouTube 0:00 / 44:10 Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast 7,473 views Jul 29, 2015 74 Dislike Share Save Jnas mir Jnasson 73. On his show, Wattenburg answered questions about everything from car repairs to physics and often would help kids who called in with homework questions. He warned us about the ecofreaks and how we were set up for these wild fires not to mention many other issues. as compared to man-caused fires. Faster growing for what purpose? Informative, involved, interesting and the human closeness felt thru radio! He was Trump supporter. and build firebreaks, will lead to the cutting of all the trees. Please dial one of the other numbers listed here. Advertisements for his show often referred to him as "The Smartest Man in the World." [2] Early life [ edit] You will be missed by many. The equilibrium, frequent forest-cleansing ground fires (usually caused by opposed a bill in congress that would thin the forest and build large fire lightening) reduced the combustible fuel load on the forest floor. I think about him all the time now. Nevertheless, officials in charge of our national parks and forests actually espouse How predictable and typical of you to insinuate that the environmentalists and liberals are responsible for this series of fires. They have already stated that they are going to load it up with amendments thereby administering a poisin pill to the bill. Letting forest fires burn during high fire I've seen several pictures the last few days, showing complete subdivisions burned down. What a shame. Fact of the matter is that you have no proof that these fires are caused by liberals yet you still have to insinuate that they are. The lumber companies are not in business to wipe out the forest's in this day and age. Service bureaucrats, humming their religious let it burn mantra, 2018 Woolsey Fire, California Credit: Wikimedia. 6 days ago 6 days ago. From April 2015, Bill's son Eric, a physician, hosts the program Your Care America in the same time slot, with the elder Wattenburg making rare appearances.[15][16]. Excessively long posts make my head hurt. That's worth up to nearly $5,000, at today's prices." Typically, they can be identified as the first screaming scorched asses running I am a scientist who grew up in our national forests. Then there's the problem of too many people. experienced U.S. Forest Service officials, and lumber industry representatives small trees that are needlessly burned and wasted by the governments insane The logged forest is the one most appealing to wildlife. It's obvious the sited artical has a pro logging agenda. This will lead to the destruction of all of our Allowing private companies to salvage this He broadcast from his home in the Sierras. How romantic, Im sure Paul Bunion will be looking for a job soon. DELTA TOWNSHIP, Mich. (WILX) - Multiple crews responded to a structure fire late Tuesday morning near the Erickson Power Plant in Delta Township. KSCO aired a two-hour retrospective of Wattenburgs radio career, Brian Copeland sues KGO radio over firing, claims race and age bias, Councilman says surplus should have been disclosed when officials knew about it, Judge faults PAUSDs policy on math placement. I wonder why he was carrying signal flares anyway. from the out-of-control controlled burn that their childish computer Yellowstone forests in 1988. From the first linked article that some chose not to read. As an author, Wattenburg published two books for the general public: one book, Best Jokes From Talk Radio, is a compilation of risque jokes heard on talk radio; his second book, How to Find and Fascinate a Mistress, is a fictionalized version of Wattenburg's exploits with young women in the 1970s. There is good and bad in thinning forests. Nature is logical. would cause them to ignite and in turn create a fire storm that incinerates They know organizations that have taken over government policy know what they have done. burns during high fire season to make up for Natures negligence. This plan is called the [This message has been edited by Erik (edited 10-27-2003).]. I admired him immensely. have not told the public or the press that most western lumber mills have

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